Apparently, there is a problem with a lot of JW men abusing their wives both physically and verbally or why the article? Why aren't they telling the abused women to consider getting the F out of the abusive relationship? To me it looks like the same old crap where the main goal is to keep the public image of the organization squeaky clean at the expense of the individual. They tell the "brother" he should stop beating on his wife, but it doesn't look to me like they bother to tell the wife how to stop being beat on or how to stop being verbally abused.
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WHY THE WATCHTOWER TREATS MEN LIKE DONKEYS OF BURDEN
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/tppmprdxxzw?si=shh5vkmuzfp6c9_m.
so the watchtower has come out with sn article, study article 2 in their newly released study watchtower magazine for 2025 and we see from the start how they keep perpetuating the same old outdated narrative that when it comes to marriages the husband is the one at fault, we'll thats i think when i read paragraph from this article where i man has to work on a whole list of things and not once the wife is instructed to do any of these things, but let's just read together paragraph 14:.
what are these steps?
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PRESIDENTIAL predictions...let the prognosticators have their say!
by Terry inmy only prowess in making predictions stems from my 77-years of life in the united statesgrowing up under president truman, eisenhower, kennedy, nixon, .....etc.
etc.i was a widdle kid sitting in front of a tiny black and white tv set when the very first broadcastsof political conventions, deal-making, debates (nixon vs kennedy), assassinations (jfk, rfk, martin luther king, etc.
) i grew up with duck and cover under my elementary schooldesk, the cold war, the iron curtain, the korean war, the vietnam war and i went to federal prisonas a jw conscientious objector while hippies, flower children, political activists protested and universitystudents were fired up on by troops.i grew up reading newspapers (2 of them).
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I think you're right about the woke stuff MeanMrMustard. I've heard people on the left going on about women's rights being taken away but it got to the point where the left couldn't even define what a women is. Any man could just claim that he is a woman. Some examples of women's rights being taken away by the left: Biological men participating in women's sports and injuring women and winning. Men entering women's spaces such as restrooms and locker rooms. Try to turn biological girls into boys with drugs and surgery. Women were loosing a lot of rights to men that I think most people on the left didn't know about or think through and if you brought these thinks up you became the enemy. And then there also the critical race theory nonsense. I think there is a lesson here. Instead of canceling people and name calling people with different views we should try listening to them.
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PRESIDENTIAL predictions...let the prognosticators have their say!
by Terry inmy only prowess in making predictions stems from my 77-years of life in the united statesgrowing up under president truman, eisenhower, kennedy, nixon, .....etc.
etc.i was a widdle kid sitting in front of a tiny black and white tv set when the very first broadcastsof political conventions, deal-making, debates (nixon vs kennedy), assassinations (jfk, rfk, martin luther king, etc.
) i grew up with duck and cover under my elementary schooldesk, the cold war, the iron curtain, the korean war, the vietnam war and i went to federal prisonas a jw conscientious objector while hippies, flower children, political activists protested and universitystudents were fired up on by troops.i grew up reading newspapers (2 of them).
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I don't know who will win but I know that if I watch Fox News Trump is doing a wonderful job of campaigning and Kamala is lazy and stupid. If I watch MSNBC I learn that Trump is a fascist and held a Nazi rally in NY and that Kamala is the smartest most caring woman ever. I find both channels extremely bias and misleading. I think next year will be crazy no matter wins because the fanatics on the losing side won't want to accept it.
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Attended JW funeral today
by usualusername1 innever miss a marketing opportunity—even at a funeral.
funerals aren’t the first place you’d expect marketing.
but jehovah’s witnesses know how to turn every moment into an opportunity to share their message.. during funerals, they weave in their teachings of hope and resurrection, offering comfort and, at the same time, presenting their beliefs to attendees who may not be part of the faith.
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I had a JW zoom funeral at my house this past year for my mother-in-law. One of my relatives who was staying with us gave the talk and did a nice slide presentation on her life. It was only family members in attendance. About half were jdubs and half not. I think a lot of people from her old congregation and out of state relatives zoomed it. The sales pitch part was limited so wasn't too bad. Probably best jdub funeral I've been to as funerals go. -
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Be Obedient and Submissive to the Faithful Slave. Hmmm...Sounds kinky!!!
by WingCommander inseriously, how have i never caught on as to how kinky this weird cult language sounds?
"be obedient and submissive to the faithful slave.
"may i have another flogging, mr.
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Convincing the rank and file that they are the slaves when they are actually the ones calling the shots is some brilliant marketing.
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Do you recognize this?
by Gorb inthinking sometimes about my youth days and the stories my grandfather told me about our jw congregation.
do you recognize that your congregation was full of somehowe strange folks, very low educated, poor and simple?.
the po was an elder with some distance, with some personality acting intelligent and following the rules strict.. there was always a kind of scandal.
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I can't really speak on the quality of leadership in the congregations now as I haven't been a Jdub in decades, but I would think that it varies a lot from area to area and from congregation to congregation. I did go to one congregation in the early seventies where one of the elders was a college professor. Thinking back, I'm amazed that someone of that educational level would buy into the JW fantasy world.
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First Church Service at 55 years Old
by SouthCentral ini went to a christening at a church today, a black church.
it was an incredible experience!!
women were an active part of the service, and the people were very welcoming.
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Even Richard Dawkins recently referred to himself as a cultural Christian. He doesn't believe in the claims, but he is comfortable with it and seems to enjoy singing carols and participating in some Christian events.
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Jehovah's Witnesses came by today.
by 3rdgen inthis morning i was in our front yard sitting down pulling weeds when i saw 3 people slowly walking on the sidewalk in my direction.
2 of them were young, handsome, clean shaven, wearing nice crisp white shirts and perfectly tailored black slacks.
they could have been mormons except.... there was a 60ish portly woman wearing a frumpy dress and ugly sandals.
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I never heard of the Menlo Park situation till now so I looked it up. Wow, I'm surprised I missed that one.
By her expression it looks like you may have touched a nerve. I wonder if she would be comfortable speaking with you again if she has any doubts. It seems like leaving the organization at 60 could be very difficult for a lot of people.
BTW I used to spot them all the time by the slow walk. I didn't know they were still going D to D.
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Disfellowshipping and Excutions
by blondie in*w60 2/1 80 - 17 there may be rare instances where a child is so hardened in its stubbornness that even the rod of correction cannot drive it out.
in the days of israel parents were instructed by jehovah to take such a rebel to the city fathers and they, in turn, took the incorrigible one out and stoned him to death.
there were no juvenile delinquents under such a system.
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In those quotes from the Watchtower, they do seem a little bummed out that they're not allowed to kill apostates. I guess they just had to settle for being as mean as they could be within the law if the land. Kicking your 15-year-old daughter out of the house and into the streets would give you a pretty good chance of getting her killed or having her die young.
I guess I should mention that I can't think of anyone in congregation where I spent most of my time as a Jdub that would have approved of kicking a 15-year-old out of the house and into the streets, but I did meet Jdubs along the way that I think would have found it quite easy to do.
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The "Baby Boomers" are starting to die off, and the effects
by Captain Schmideo2 ini was born in 1964, so, i was 10 when the buildup to 1975 was happening (and watched the subsequent failure of that).then, when i was a teenager, i got to see the fallour of the big apostacy events in the 1980s.during all of this, i was told by my parents and by people of my parents' peer group that "this old system won't last much longer, and won't the new system be great!
"it is now 2024. i am going to be 60 years old in a few months.
over half a century.my mom died two months after her 80th birthday last year, after suffering for years of chronic poor health (some of it brought on by a very sedentary lifestyle, but also plagued by emotional and mental issues and family drama which did not help overall.
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Great post. Off the top of my head, I came up with the names of almost 20 witnesses that went to the first hall I attended that are now deceased. I sure that by now there could be at least double that but I have no way of knowing. My mother-in-law just recently passed away at 102. She became a witness in the 1960s and spent the rest of her life waiting for the arrival of the kingdom that promised eternal youth no more death. Because she lived so long, she saw almost all of her close JW friends and quite a few JW family members pass away from old age or horrible disease and still no sign of Jehovah and his magic kingdom.
I still don't understand how they can be in it so long and never catch on to the scam. Maybe they do but can't bring themselves to facing up to the consequences of admitting that they'd been duped so they just trudge along brushing all doubts aside.